The Price of a Turkey
33As you probably know by now, I’m often fascinated by the prices I find at the local supermarkets. Why? Well, before I was farming, it was just a price. I knew it was cheap, but I had no idea how cheap it was when compared to the cost of production for a farm like ours. So nowadays I see the same prices, but I do a little mental math, compare it to an average and then wonder how this product could be SO cheap. Like much of large-scale agriculture, I find it to be fascinating, unbelievable and more often than I’d like…horrifying.
The other day, I was in a local grocery store and I noticed their turkeys. So, I grabbed my cell phone and took this photo:
$1.38 per pound! Wow. These turkeys were all around 11-12lbs, so that meant you could purchase one for around $16.00. That’s a great deal. How is it possible though? I started to think through everything required to raise a turkey on our farm, and here’s a summary of my thoughts. Before I get into that, I should note a couple of things. First, the costs I’m calculating below don’t include anything related to the infrastructure required for raising a turkey (i.e. a pen of some sort, shavings, waterers, an area for them to roam, etc). They also do not include any labor costs. I’m looking only at the basic costs of producing Thanksgiving turkeys. Two, I’m assuming approximate pricing here based on some knowledge I have personally, some research and the website for Purely Poultry, which is a company located in Fremont, WI. There are some small differences in pricing depending on which hatchery you work with, how they ship, etc.
Anyway, there are a few major stages to raising a turkey. In our first year, we raised 50 turkeys, so I’ll run with that number and pretend that I’m just an average person looking to raise turkeys for myself, my family and friends. Any left over will be eaten by the same people or sold to others by word-of-mouth. By raising this many, I’ll be able to benefit from some small price breaks. Raising only five, for instance, would be a little more expensive.
Stage 1: Purchase 50 turkeys and ship them to your location
Stage 2: Brooding: Keep those turkeys warm with at least one heat lamp
Stage 3: Feed those turkeys
Stage 4: Slaughter those turkeys
Stage 1
If I raised conventional, broad-breasted white turkeys, they would cost $6.24 each plus shipping. Shipping would be $20 regardless of which type you purchased. If you wanted broad-breasted bronze turkeys, the price goes up to $6.37 each (+$20). If you wanted heritage turkeys, the price goes up again to $9.60 each (+$20).
Grand Total: $332 or $6.64 each for the white conventional ($500 or $10 each for heritage)
Stage 2
If I used our current brooder box, it requires one 250 watt bulb to create a 4′ x 4′ area that has a temperature of 100-105F. 105F is a little high, but the birds can moderate their own temperature by leaving the area for a bit and coming back. Anyway, all I need is that one bulb for my 50 turkeys. If I run that bulb for 24 hours a day for a couple of weeks, the cost would be somewhere around $8.00. If I divide that into each turkey, it costs $.16 per bird. Not too bad.
Grand Total: $.16 each
Stage 3
Feeding turkeys will be one of the most expensive stages because they are bigger birds, you raise them longer than most birds and the conventional variety grows pretty quickly–so they eat quickly too. If we assume that a conventional, broad-breasted turkey will take 4-5 months to raise, we’re looking at around 75lbs of feed or ~1/2lb of feed per day on average. A heritage turkey takes 6-7 months–or longer–so we’re looking at around 125lbs of feed for them. You can lower this a bit by putting them on pasture, but there will also be times that they’re going through a growth spurt, and they’ll eat a lot more. The cost of feed can vary a lot too, depending on how you do it, but I’ll assume $.25/lb for feed. Organic can cost a lot more, higher protein gamebird starter–you start them on this for a couple of weeks to a month–also costs more, but $.25 is our ballpark figure for this exercise.
Grand Total: $18.75 each for conventional, $31.25 each for heritage
Stage 4
Processing can vary too, but in general it will cost $7-$9 for a non-huge turkey.
So, here’s what I’m looking at in my head:
$6.64 + $.16 + $18.75 + $7 = $32.55 each for 50 conventional turkeys or $1,627.50 for them all
$10.00 + $.16 + $31.25 + $7 = $48.41 each for 50 heritage turkeys or $2,420.50 for them all
If we divide that into a 12lb conventional turkey, that’s $2.71/lb, and it’s $4.03/lb for a heritage turkey. This is the basic cost of production and break-even price.
Then I look back at $1.38/lb.
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Again, I haven’t included any infrastructure, transportation or labor costs in these figures. If we did this, the price per pound should go up for both a conventional and a heritage turkey.
Our farm charges $4/lb for a conventional turkey and $5 for a heritage turkey. So, if our farm sold these birds, we would sell that 12lb turkey for $48 or $60. If my cost of production is $32.55 and $48.41 respectively, then the money we make beyond the cost of production is $15.45 for each conventional turkey and $11.59 for each heritage.
$15.45 x 50 = $772.50 total
$11.59 x 50 = $579.50 total
Now, as a farmer (or anyone running a business), you have to ask yourself, “How much do we pay ourselves for–in this case–raising turkeys for 4-7 months?” They require some work every day, and some days are more work than others. Then there is the fuel we use to transport the birds, their feed, etc. Then there’s just the cost of equipment. That’s long-term equipment like fencing, feeders, waterers, range shelters and short-term or one-use equipment like wood shavings. There’s also insurance, licensing, and “the farm” in general :)
Just for fun, let’s add some of those costs of production.
It’s 30 miles to our processor, one-way. So that’s 60 miles I have to drive to get them to the processor and come home. It’s 10 miles to the feed mill, and if I only go there once in 4 months, that’s 20 miles for a round trip (the odds of one trip are VERY low). So 50 miles in a truck that gets 25 miles per gallon is 2 gallons of fuel. Over the course of the 4 months, we’ll use another 5 gallons (at least) with our ATV, which we use to haul feed, supplies, etc. out to pasture. So, 7 gallons and I’ll assume that people come pick their birds up. Right now, gas is $3.20/gal, so let’s subtract $22.40 from our previous earnings. Now we have $750.10.
If I only use bagged wood shavings, I’ll want 6 bags for the time that the turkeys are in the brooding area. So, that’s another $30. Now we have $720.10.
This is not accurate, by any means, but let’s project “the farm” out long enough that the equipment, land, buildings, etc. needed to raise them and future birds would cost $.50 per bird. Now we have $695.10.
If someone spends 30 minutes per day with these turkeys on average, that ends up being 60 hours if we keep them for 120 days. Let’s pay that farmer minimum wage for his or her work, so $7.25 per hour. That’s $435 dollars. Now the farm has $260.10 left, or $5.20 per bird in net profit.
It’s really important to take a second here and point out that a lot of farmers do not pay themselves for their labor. Instead, the net profit all goes into the farm. While I realize that the farm is ‘ours’, it is a separate legal entity and it is a business. Most businesses need to pay employees to succeed, and in the case of a farm, it’s usually the farmers who are the employees. So, if you never pay yourself anything for your labor, your numbers can look better here. Granted, it’s only the numbers that look good and you are subsidizing them with your life.
We are paying our farmers in this exercise though! If the farm sells one turkey for $48, and it then gets to keep $5.20 of that after the costs of production…..that’s a profit margin of just under 11%. In my book, that’s not as good as it should be for a living wage, successful farm, etc. Still, what’s a good profit margin? If we say that 20% is a profit margin we want, then I need to make $9.60 per bird. The difference from the $5.20 I was making is $4.40 and that divided into 12 pounds is $.37 more per pound that I need to charge. So, I should be charging around $4.37/lb to be in an ok situation. That means your turkey now costs $52.44 instead of $48.00.
I don’t want to belabor the point here, but this also assumes that we start with 50 turkeys and end with 50 turkeys. The odds of this happening are relatively slim, and the ‘expected’ losses tend to be in the 2-4% range. So we’ll expect to lose 2 birds. Predators, the weather and random acts of death being what they are, we’ll most likely lose at least 4-5 birds. Those birds will die at different stages, so the losses will vary for each one. Having said that, we won’t spend as much on them either because they’ll be gone. Losses early on are far more, um, affordable let’s say, than losses toward the end when you have all of this time, energy and feed wrapped up in each bird. I want to make sure we include this in the thought process, but I won’t include them in the overall calculations for this exercise.
Anyway, a 10.9% profit margin for the farm isn’t great, and in that scenario I had to spend all of that money in order to make my $5.20 per turkey ($260)—and we still haven’t included *all* of the costs of production here.
In closing, if I tried to compete with that store-bought turkey and charged $1.38/lb, I would lose $36.44 per turkey or $1,822 dollars. Trying to compete with that turkey is obviously not something that a farm like ours can do and be financially sustainable (the most important definition of sustainable in my book), but given the general perception of food within our culture today, we are competing with it whether we want to or not. That is, the food we produce is often seen as expensive, it travels from afar (i.e. from here to the Fox Valley or Madison) instead of the food large-scale, industrial companies are producing being seen as cheap and traveling GLOBAL distances (i.e. thousands of miles). As you can imagine, it’s quite easy to be frustrated by that, but ultimately this is not a post about the illusion of cheap food. This post is about arming you with the basic knowledge about the production of food so that you too can look at a price like $1.38/lb and wonder how it is possible. Some of the answers are wrapped up in the economies of scale and that’s why a lot of farms get big, but there are other answers that should alarm us. That is, if we are ever given the answers to our questions, or if we ever ask them. This is also a very good example of how farm(er)s can lose a lot of money in a hurry. If you’re not charging enough, you lose. It doesn’t matter how great you are at farming or how amazing your products are. We did ok in this exercise, which approximates reality, but it’s not great…and we’re still only paying minimum wage. Not many employees want to farm for that :)
We first met Maria on the job with her mother at the Appleton Farmer’s Market. I did a double take when I saw her. I had just painted a sun and moon design on a piece of nursery furniture. “That girl’s face looks like the moon I just painted,” I thought.I mentioned this to my husband who reminded me this mission was to be a “surgical strike.” I made my purchase and asked for her card. “Nami Moon! Look at that honey,” I said, ” A moon on her card..Don’t you think that means something?” “It means her farmer’s market customers are crazier than she thought,” he said, “hold on, I have a message coming in..chsssshsschssss (static) sssshch..roger that…mission countdown started..all troops on silent alert. Over and out.”
I think the prices of Nami Moon Farms products are reasonable. We have become {crazy} loyal fans of Nami Moon Farms products. I even tried duck eggs and they are delicious. My favorite product is the stock kit. I have a stock going all winter. Stocks from these kits are especially flavorful and full of bone-building gelatin. Through the Weston Price Foundation I learned about the importance of organ meats. Nami Moon is my source for organic chicken liver. Thank you for all your very hard work. Best wishes for a prosperous future! I ready for my turkey now.
Here’s more of what you have to compete with: One of our local grocery stores has Jennie-O turkeys on sale for 59 cents per pound and Butterball for 99 cents per pound. :-( This would be what the business world calls a “loss-leader,” The store subsidizes a big sale on the “big purchase” (the bird), with the hopes that customers will buy their entire meal there, or that it will bring in new customers, or even enhance customer loyalty. Thank goodness more and more people are realizing the REAL costs of “cheap” food and selecting the ultimately more affordable local product.
Hi b! I had never heard of a “loss-leader” before, but that makes sense. Thanks for the insight!
Chris
Such a thoughtful and well-written post. Thank you for sharing the real cost to us all. And you didn’t even get into small, sustainable practices vs. big business practices, which I know are your primary concern. Thanks again!
Hi A & T, You’re welcome! I’m glad that you enjoyed the article. I had to work really hard to not keep writing because I thought it was already too long…but then I didn’t want to take anything out either. I plan on writing on other topics as much as I can.
Chris
Thanks for this analysis. I have been buying local turkeys for the past 5 years and they are really worth the price. Their flavor is so much better than butterball anyway. It is scary to think what allows them to charge such low prices. Thanks for your hard work and honesty.
Hi Siobhan, It is scary to think about what enables such low pricing. As I mention in the article, a lot of it is wrapped up in economies of scale, but there is such a ‘black box’ phenomenon with this sort of ‘farming’. That is, these things go into a black box—something happens—and products (turkeys) come out the other end. We never really see what happens inside the box. This is one big reason why I try to show what we do as much as I talk about it. Thanks for your comment!
Chris
I LOVED this article!!!1
I too used to farm, for over 20 years I ran a very small organic farm and I can sooooo relate to this piece and I too have this conversation with people ALL of the time. I make the choice to support what I believe in and I am far from rich but food is myy health insurance and my quality of life. Though I no longer toil the fields my heart belongs to the farm, the farmers and all who grow with a conscience. Thank you! Americans have got to wake up to the REAL price of food. While traveling the Midwest this past year I saw an agricultural scene that haunts me and I have made the commitment to NOT support the revolting-deeply divisive -corn- feed-lot, slaughter-house- stinkhole EVER AGAIN. I ask: What price cheap meat? I am NOT willing to sell my soul for cheap food. Never have, never will. Again thank you much!
Hi Alicia, Thanks! 20 years of farming is amazing! Sometimes it’s hard to think about things that far into the future, but then we’re already heading into year 5 next year and we’ve got there in a blur.
Chris
Thanks for this article. I hope you don’t mind but I shared a link to it on my face book farm page. I, like you, produce a few turkeys… it started out for our family/extended family. The extended family showed NO appreciation for them (they even got them FREE) Not even a Thank you. So this year I decided they were not getting any and if I had any left over I would offer them for sale to strangers! On The BB’s, I charged $3.00/pound Live weight and $4.00/pound butchered with the heritage being $5.00/pound butchered (I ONLY had 5 extras to sell) I sold out in 2 days with just an ad on Craig’s List and on a couple face book poultry pages I belong to. If I had more I could have sold A LOT more, thankfully people are now starting to value the effort that is put into raising non factory farmed/local. I am not sure your stance on medications… But I go the extra mile and raise mine totally medication free (not even a medicated starter) and all my feed is GMO free. Keep up your good work!! :D
I also put this on my FB farm page. it is very important that people be allowed to know the real costs of food production. This “myth” of there being “good wholesome cheap food” must stop.
Luckily most people, when given the opportunity to actually “see” how things are done on a farm, appreciate the information.
People dont want to be lied to. People want to be able to trust their food system. People do not want to be made out to be naive fools who listen to whatever ad is prettiest. (they are on to you corporate America!) And so on that note- it is extremely important that we farmers, do not lie to them. Just be honest. That is all our customers really want, so that they can make choices for themselves.
Hi Connie, I agree. Most people are not deliberately trying to ignore reality, they just have placed their trust in food systems that take advantage of them and their belief that those systems are doing the right thing. Big Ag has a lot to teach us in terms of scaling up, but I think that smaller forms can better inform that process for everyone so that the end results are healthier all around. I don’t know how it will all go down, but I do think it’s inevitable. We’ll see though, and in the meantime we can do what we can to be honest and informative. As you said, people can make their own decisions from there.
Chris
Hi there! I definitely don’t mind that you shared the article. I’m curious about how your sales via Craigslist have gone. It sounds like you’ve done pretty well that way, which is great. We also don’t medicate our animals, but this also means we try to keep everything as clean as possible on the farm. That’s not to say that we’re afraid of germs, but I think that bad practices are the root of massive antibiotic use. We don’t medicate, and we’re not afraid to have our animals out in the world and/or intermingling. A clean farm and good practices minimize the chances of anything going wrong. It’s a rough parallel to how we humans have become germophobes to the point of making us and our children more sick than if they were out in the dirt, so to speak, building their immune systems by encountering Life.
Chris
Sorry I did not get back sooner, this just came into my mailbox that someone replied! Sales from Craigslist have been through the roof!! This year so much that I was able to charge $6.00/lb butchered for BB White and $8.00/ lb for heritage. Don’t get many that want live but if I do I usually just go down $1.00/lb. Repeat customers ALWAYS get a better price… For example I sold an 18.92 lb bird, at $6.00/lb that comes to $113.52, my repeat customer (been buying for 3 years for me) got the bird for $100.00 even. I like to keep customers and I figure that is a kind of incentive to come back.
Love the brakedown, but you forgot to include how your Turkeys are humanly raised. Those Beautiful Birds that are raised in those warehouses are not treated like you treat your birds, they are all packed together, never seeing the light of day, force feed Lord knows what ( GMO seed? ) poor water? and unsanitary living conditions!!! Who wants to eat that, not my family. I’ll buy a Bird from a local farmer and pay for the more humane raised Bird. God Bless you and yours, and all the Old School
Farmers of the World!!! Suzanne
Hi Suzanne, you’re right! I thought about talking about how we raise our animals, but that whole side of things was something I wanted to imply more than detail because I think that people know far less about the ‘calculus of cost’ for us smaller farms. I do like thinking of us as ‘Old School’, and it’s funny because we’re really surrounded by a lot of farmers who are/were old school, but now they’re trapped in a different model. Some, of course, have done well for themselves within that model, but that has meant scaling up to astronomical sizes and making Agriculture a difficult industry for anyone to get into.
Chris
Thanks for this article. You are SO right, and people do not understand how much goes into the raising of turkeys. We did a very, very small scale of what you did and I think the first year we made $15. (We did not pay labor and we processed the birds ourselves). We obviously did not charge enough, but man the turkeys taste good. :-)
Hi Jane, You’re right…the turkeys do taste amazing! Charging enough is hard to do I think, but the more people see it as the real cost of production (with an honest, fair profit margin for the farm(er)–the better off we’ll be. Now we just have to get to that point.
Chris
I am following Nami Moon Farms because I do understand. I know I must pay the price for the truth. Like Suzanne says, “Those beautiful birds are raised in warehouses and it is just wrong. The truth is that living creatures are being abused to provide cheap food. Antibiotics have been applied willy nilly and cruelty abounds. I will pay for my turkey instead of going to the movies and and munching on partially hydrogenated,genetically modified, butter flavor soybean oil soaked popcorn and a quart size high fructose laden soft drink…not a big sacrifice and you can quote me on that.
Hi Kat, I once heard a presenter at MOSES (Will Winter I think) say that we’ve ‘vaccinated our sins away for too long’, and now we’re having to deal with the repercussions of that decision. The antibiotics issue alone should make a lot of people wonder because I doubt they realize that livestock are given the majority of antibiotics in this country. It’s an incredibly huge amount, and now we’re getting more reports of Super Bugs. Scary stuff.
Chris
It is time to pay attention to this issue. I am not a wealthy woman, nor were my ancestors in rural Arkansas. They were healthy despite being poor and growing up during the depression. Why were my mother and father more healthy than their children? Hmmm. Perhaps they did not vaccinate their sins away.
We’ve seen ads on TV for turkeys as low as $0.69 per pound! Is the economy really so bad now that people can barely afford a Thanksgiving turkey?
Hey Matt, As I understand it, the price of turkeys has more to do with getting you in the store than it does with the cost of production. I’m sure there’s all kinds of crazy math behind this pricing too, but even with that built into what we’re looking at, it is hard to understand how anyone could sell a turkey for that low and still hope to make any money IF they are buying it for anywhere near a normal cost of production.
Chris
THANK YOU for such a wonderful write-up of what it REALLY costs us little-guy farmers to raise this kinda stuff . . . not just turkeys, but any other meat animal, eggs, dairy, etc. I shared it on my FB, too, b/c I, TOO don’t compensate myself for my labor, gas, etc., & also deal w/ the people going “OMG! You want HOW MUCH?! I can buy that at the grocery for $_____.” &, I don’t know WHY, but I always feel guilty about bringing up all of the time/energy/blood/sweat/tears that goes INTO everything I raise, on top of their hay/feed/etc., but sharing your post sort of gives me a free ticket to introduce the concept, so that people will be more understanding & appreciative. Kind regards, Sarah/south-central MI
Hi Sarah, I’m glad that you liked the write-up, and I hope your FB people enjoyed it too. The more we can do to inform our customers–and people in general–about the costs of production we have vs. what we actually make, the better off we’ll be. There’s just this misconception out there with so many people that we’re raking money in hand-over-fist because of our higher prices. I wouldn’t feel guilty about bringing up what you do and how hard you work to bring solid products to market, but I know how scary it can be to broach certain topics with people/customers. I find that in a lot of cases, people create their own picture of your farm in their mind and while that’s a great thing…it can also leave a lot of important stuff out.
Chris
I’m with you Chris, here’s our version of the same story: http://farminstitute.org/blog/2013turkey.
The problem with cheap is just that – its cheap.
Hi Jon! It looks like you’ve got a really nice operation out there in MV, and I enjoyed your story as well. Thanks for your comment and the e-mail!
Chris
Hey Chris,
We met back at Oregon in 2008 – I’m married to one of your former Arabic students and we have a farm down in SW Wisconsin. I enjoyed your article – we raised a few turkeys this year as well and had similar expenses to what you outlined (well actually significantly more).
I noticed recently that the price/pound that farmers are getting this year is actually $1.01 to $1.05 – this according to a bloomberg article from last week (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-26/frozen-turkey-pileup-signaling-discounts-for-thanksgiving.html).
I would have been interested to hear a little more on your theory about how large farms survive at that per # level. Obviously, cheaper feed is part of the equation – CBOT corn was 6-12 cents/pound this year depending on the month. I’d be curious to know what their aggregate per pound feed cost is but I’d guess somewhere between 8-20 cents/pound. Feed ratio is probably the biggest difference – I’m guessing the combination of immobilized turkeys and extremely low feed loss combine to a big savings in the feed ratio – mine was around 3-3.5 and I’m guessing theirs is 1.8-2.5.
Hatching, brooding, processing, labor and infrastructure all have very clear economies of scale but it is amazing they can get them down to ~50 cents/pound for EVERYTHING. Kind of scary too as you mentioned.
Hi Matt! One of these days we’re going to have to catch lunch and discuss those costs :)
That’s a fascinating article, and it’s amazing that they’ve got the guy on the record saying that they had turkeys left over from 2012. So, that apparently leads to discounts, and then I read somewhere else that there was a shortage this year with turkeys? I’m curious as to what that $1/lb means to the farmers who raise these birds because it seems like the industry controls a lot of the ‘how it’s farmed’ and the farmer is more of a manager of the industrial process. If a lot of the costs associated with this are paid by the company and not the farmer, then maybe that buck goes further. I’m not sure how many turkeys are grown this way though. The article mentions the drop in corn, but old crop was still trading relatively higher than average. Now that we’re heading into the new crop though, prices are VERY low…break-even for a lot of big commodity farmer types, probably less given how wet the corn is this year (so a lot more drying than usual). It does mention higher feed prices during the summer in the fresh turkey portion, now that I read ahead another paragraph.
Anyway, the main enabler for survival for these large farms is just the sheer number of turkeys they raise. It’s like in Office Space (and Superman) when they shave pennies off of transactions and end up with a lot of money, haha. It’s hard to say what their feed costs would be because you’d think that at least some of them are growing their own somehow, or at least contracting it out at lower-than-market rates (again, probably able to do this by being able to ask for so much). Low feed loss would help, as would the immobilization. I think there’s a lot of ‘growth promotion’ at work too, and the genetics are really increasing size too. Arsenics are used with chicken to promote growth (and give a pinkish ‘fresh’ tinge to the meat), light control to influence eating habits/times and I’ve even found some findings where caffeine was used to jack birds up for eating time and prozac was used to bring them down. At least, that was the conclusion of the authors, who were looking for something else altogether via feather meal analysis. The genetics are also going to play into feed conversion. I’ve heard rumors of other practices too, but I can’t say for sure that it’s true. The latest was starving the birds a bit toward the end so that they would eat their own feathers and feathers from other birds to get protein from that source. At first, I thought this wouldn’t work because birds would peck a lot, but if you clip their beaks…no big deal I guess. There’s also the increasing % of whatever the hell they’re injecting into the birds in the processing. Now it’s saline solution, water, or even chicken broth. That’s anywhere from 4-15% from what I’ve seen, and that’s basically going to give them a monster margin on however much weight that ends up being. I don’t know if they always include the giblets with their turkeys too, so they might sell them somewhere else for dog food and make more than way than by keeping them inside the turkey and adding that to the weight. Though a lot of people do use and enjoy those giblets. Anywhere they can make things work without human labor is going to be a cost saver too. Nothing new there though. I’m sure there’s a lot more to it all too, and we’ll never know what it is. I don’t say that to scare anyone, but farms and companies shouldn’t hide this stuff if they don’t want people speculating based on what we DO know.
Anyway, hope to see you guys sometime soon.
Chris
Food Inc…. Does a pretty good job of explaining how bad the industry is… It provides some discussion on mass chicken farming and the income..Now this was back in 2009 (ish). Grass fed meats and humanely raised poultry etc it better for you.. Less risk of bacterial infections, higher levels of omega 3 etc. Yes initially it costs more, but when you look at the health benefits in the long term…it has the potential to save in the continuously rising and expensive health care costs.
I just ordered this book and can’t wait to dive in:
http://meatonomics.com/the-book/
Also remember that bird’s in the store are injected with a water based brine 10 or 15% of the bird’s weight, making it heavier driving the cost down, because water and salt cost next to nothing for the producers
Fresh uninjected Turkey raised locally can’t be beat and will always be worth the cost
Good point on the injected fluids! I’ve even seen “chicken broth” as 15% of weight on some packages. Pretty crazy.